Girling Family of Stradbroke
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Permalink Reply by Douglas Campbell on -
Hello Kellie,
I am a new member of this web site. I would like to draw your attention to my reply today to David John Girling's post of 23 August 2010. Some of the content should be of interest to you in the light of your sister's proposed visit to Stradbroke.
Happy hunting!
Regards,
Douglas Campbell
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Permalink Reply by Douglas Campbell on
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Hi David,
I am a new member of this site although I have been aware of it for some months.
In your submission of August 23, 2010 you have listed part of the Girling/Grenling line from which I am descended i.e.:
Richard Grenling (1499-1558) and Rose
Thomas Grenling (1527-1591) and Margery Godbold (1st wife Johanna Fox having died bef. Nov 1555)
Robert Grenling (1560-1625) and Alice
John Grenling/Greenling (1605-1681) and Elizabeth, then, whilst you are descended from
Abraham Grenling (1645-1730), I am descended from his eldest brother
John Girling/Gurling (1640-1675) and Bridget Burton. John became the (first recorded) Landlord of the Swan Inn at Lavenham which survives to this day as the famous Swan Hotel. John and Bridget’s daughter Sarah became the second wife of Richard Petley and my descent follows on from there.
The antecedents of Richard Grenling (1499-1558) that I know of at present are:
Thomas Grenling (1473-1529) of Fressingfield and Johane (abt 1477-20 Nov 1533)
Robert Gyrlyng (abt 1437-??) of Fressingfield)
John Gyrlyng (abt 1415-04 Oct 1487) of Fressingfield and Margaret
I have quite a considerable amount of further information about Girling and related families connected to Stradbroke (such as Godbold, Borret, Sancroft/Sandcroft and Fox) but as yet largely unsorted. That is my big task for the coming winter. Further research is also ongoing.
I note that Kellie Russell’s sister is to visit Stradbroke next week and I suggest that she looks at the Memorials in ledger slabs on the floor of the Parish Church where she can find several Girlings mentioned. There are a great many Borretts there under the North aisle.
I have recorded the Girlings as follows:-
All Saints Church, Stradbroke Photo 115-1506
Inside the Church Photo 114-1500
The following relevant to the family research are commemorated in ledger slabs in the floors of the church:
Sanctuary, against East wall:
1. Anthony Grenling (1653). [First husband of Frances SANCROFT. See North Aisle (6)] [Relationship of Anthony to myself, is 2nd cousin, 11 times removed – I think!]
DEPOSITVM ANTONIJ
GRENLING IN RESVRE
RETIONE IVSTOR
OLIM RESVMEND.
OBJIT OCTOB
ANNO { DOMINI 1653
{AETATISSVA 34
[See Will prepared 25 Dec 1652 and proved 16 Feb 1653/54 at PCC]
South Aisle (east-west):
1. William Girling (1653). Photo 114-1493
Here lies interred the body of Willm Girling Gent: Patron of this living and Sonne to Willm Girling Esq & Mary his wife who departed this life in hope of a joyfull resurrection in the world to come & whose body was committed to the earth the 12th of May Anno Domi 1653 being aged 42 yeares and 7 months.
[Born abt Oct 1610. Will proved 22 Jun 1653 names wife Susan as beneficiary followed by kinsman John GIRLING, yeoman of Blaxhall, Suffolk. This gives us a link between the families in Blaxhall and Stradbroke]
2. Abraham GRENLING alias GIRLING or GRINLIN (1804), his wife Susannah (1821), Abraham, their son (1803) and William (1856). Photos 114-1494 & 1497
(Here lies interred the body of)
ABRAHAM GRENLING Alias GIRLING or GRINLIN who departed this Life March 24th 1804, Aged 76 Years [born abt 1728]. Also of ABRAHAM GRENLING (his Son) who departed this Life April 11th 1803 Aged 34 Years [born abt 1769]
Also
SUSANNA the wife of ABRAHAM GRENLING who departed this life Jany 29th 1821, Aged 77 Years [born abt 1744].
Also of
WILLIAM GRENLING the Son who departed this Life March 15th 1836, Aged 65 Years [born abt 1771]
3. Susan GIRLING (1651). Photo 115-1508
Here lyes the body of Susan GIRLING Daughter to Willm GIRLING & Susan his wife who was buried the 3 d of November Anno Domi 1651.
[A small child judging by the size of the ledger. Father appears to be William in (1) above.]
4. Simon GIRLING, Surgeon (1792) and his wife Ann (1797). (Under doormat at South Porch entrance). Photos 114-1495/6
Sacred To the memory of Mr SIMON GIRLING Surgeon of this Parish who died the 27th day of January 1792, Aged 68 Years. [i.e. born abt 1724]
Mrs ANN GIRLING Relict of Mr SIMON GIRLING obit Octr 8th 1797, Aged 63.
[born abt 1734]
North Aisle
4. John BORRETT (1724). Photo 114-1488
Here lies the Body of John Borrett Esq one of the Masters of the high Court of Chancery.
He married Rebecca the Daughter of Tho. Grenling of Wilby Gent by whom he left living two Sons John & Thomas.
He was Buried July 15th 1724 In the 36th Year of his Age. [born abt 1689]
6. Frances SANCROFT, widow of a) Anthony GREENLING and b) Giles BORRETT (1707). Photos 114-1482/3. [Also sister of Dr William SANCROFT, Archbishop of Canterbury 1678 – 1690].
P M S
Here in hope of a joyfull Resurrection Resteth ye body of Frances daughter of Francis Sancroft of Fresingfld Gent.
She marryed first Anthony Greenling after to Giles Borrett of this parish Gent: and dyed without issue surviving, but not without it a very good name and Laudable Character, the just deserts of her eminent piety & Charity.
She departed this life October 9th 1707, Aged 84 years [born abt 1623].
7. Giles BORRETT (1670). Photo 114-1484
[Appears to be 2nd husband of Frances SANCROFT]
P M S
Under this Marble is laid up, In the hope of Resurrection To A Blessd Imortalitie
All that was Mortall of
Mr Giles Borrett
Who led an Exemplary life Religious toward God, Charitable to ye Poor, Usefull to the Publick, Just and Courteous to all, And made at last a Pious End, And left a good Memory behind Him.
He died August ye 6th 1670, In ye Strength of His age, Being 44 Years old. [born abt 1626]
And being dead, Yet Speaketh thus to every Reader
Be you also ready, For at such all Hower as you think not
I have also recorded the memorials to other Borretts in the North Aisle.
Bequests to the Church
The following is recorded in the Guide Book:
1504 – John HERYNG the younger left 13s 4d to “the leading” of the church.
BENEFACTORS to the Minister & Inhabitants of STRADBROKE. Photo 114-1499
A.D.
1599 Mr Willm GRINLING, by his last Will gave yearly
To the Minister: £3 6s 8d
Towards the Education of five poor children: £3 6s 8d
To the better amending the highways: £3 6s 8d
To the Poor: £1 0s 0d
He also gave an Estate in Westhall subject (after other incident charges) to the payment of the aforesaid five Marks out of the yearly issues and the overplus for and towards the reparation of the Church.
[NOTE: The property in Westhall was called Bennett’s and extended to 76A. 2R.]
1638 MR NICHOLAS BORRETT, yearly £1 0s 0d
1658 MR RICHARD [or Richman or Richmond] GIRLING, yearly £1 10s 0d
1661 MR HENRY AUSTEN [or AUSTIN], yearly £1 0s 0d
1667 MR GILES BORRETT, the Rents and profits of Doggett’s Pightle, or about per Annum £1 10s 0d. [3A. 2R. of land]
1698 MR JOHN BORRETT, to six the most aged and impotent Inhabitants, as do usually attend Divine service £5 12s 0d. [A charge to his lands called Lawrence Meadow and Wall hill]
1746 MRS MARY WARNER, for teaching and instructing twelve poor Children £10 0s 0d
Outside the Church (Not an exhaustive search)
Headstones:
Photo 115-1501: Robert ALDOUS, died April 16 1889
Photo 115-1502: Thomas BORRETT, died April 28 1805, aged 52; also ????
Photo 115-1503: Robert GIRLING, died April 20 1905, aged 75;
also Phoebe GIRLING, died Dec 29 1917, aged 85 ?
Photo 115-1504: ????? , died Apr 15 1851, aged 85
Henry GURLING, died Sep 6 1832 ?, aged 87
Photo 115-1505: Sarah, wife of Robert GIRLING, died Aug 22 1830, aged 55
Photo 115-1507: Tomb of the FOX Family; located in the north-west corner of the churchyard. The top is covered in copper and on three sides there are inscriptions commemorating Nathaniel FOX, 1690 and also Simon FOX and Major John FOX.
[Translation of inscription on Fox's tomb in Stradbroke churchyard. FC 83/D4/1 n.d., held at Suffolk Record Office, Ipswich branch]
That I think is sufficient for the moment but I hope it will be of interest to yourself and others.
Regards,
Douglas Campbell
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Permalink Reply by David John Girling on -
Hello Douglas,
Welcome to the Stradbroke Village Site.
I have found it an interesting and helpful resource.
The Discussion threads can develop into a real treasure trove and the membership seems happy to help when they can and where they have a connection.
Thank you for your reply and addition to the trove.
It will interest many. It fascinates me.
I shall work my way throught it and fill in gaps in my records, refine details and flesh out many a twig on the Girling Tree - to mix up metaphors.
I note we are both descended from Richard and Rose (m.circa 1524) and then from siblings, children of John and Elizabeth (m.circa 1640). That makes us Cousins I think, but many, many times removed. Family non the less !
Thanks again, and keep in touch
David Girling
Olivella,
Barcelona Province,
Spain
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Permalink Reply by Douglas Campbell on
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Hello Cousin David,
How are you getting along with your research? I have not advanced at all with the Girlings during the past few months because I have been researching a quite unrelated family which has thrown up a most interesting story, and I keep being strung along.
Regards,
Douglas
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Permalink Reply by David John Girling on
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Hello Cousin Douglas,
Research continues, and your input was interesting and useful intel.
I would have replied earlier, but I wasn't aware your latest message was on the Stradbroke Site,
so I should check more often and not rely on automatic notification of replies.
I've not managed to take the family line back much further but I have found several links across the Girling, Borrett and Sandcroft lines. The branch is not much longer, but wider and considersbly more twigs entwined.
Broadly I have found many fascinating cross connections:
William Sandcroft (1485-1557) had an older sister Johane Sandcroft (1477-1504)
who married Thomas Greenling (1473-1529) in 1498 at Fressingfield.
Their Grandson Roger Grenling (1535-1588) married Alice Borrett (b.1535) in 1561 at Wilby.
Roger & Alice's gt.Grandson Anthony Grenling (1618-1653) married Frances Sandcroft (1580-1648) in 1644 at Stradbroke.Frances was the Daughter of Francis Sandcroft (1580-1648) & Margaret Butcher (1593-1631 and of course Frances was the gt.gt.gt.Grandaughter of William Sandcroft (1485 ) & Alice Studhaugh (1485-1504).
Frances secondly married a Borret (Giles) in 1656 but as yet I have not connected Giles to Alice of 1535.
The above mentioned Anthony (1618)
had a Sister Elizabeth Grenling (b.1616) who married a distant Cousin John Grenling (b.1605) in 1640 in Stradbroke.
This John was descended from Thomas Greenling (c.1525) who was Brother to the aforementioned Roger (1535).
There are more cross links between Girling, Borrett and Sandcroft.
A lot of the above is out there in assorted Trees and found on diverse sources but I've not seen it all linked like that.
Hope the above is of interest to you Douglas
(and to any other reseaechers of these lines).
Regards,
David
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Permalink Reply by Douglas Campbell on
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Hello again ,Cousin David, and thanks for the twiglets. Once I have studied those I shall come back to you but, in the meantime, can I direct you to the undernoted link that shows a number of Girlings. I cannot vouch for the accuracy however.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=beva...
Good luck,
Douglas
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Permalink Reply by John Phillips on
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Greetings cousin Douglas
I have recently joined the site and have been enjoying the postings. I am of course intrigued with the Girling ancestry in Stradbroke, but would be interested to know the precise connection of John Gurling, landlord of the Swan at Lavenham, to the Stradbroke family. I can only find an IGI entry which is not precise (born abt 1641,) and obviously not from a parish register or transcript. If you can fill this gap for me I would be very grateful.
Hope you're thriving
John Phillips
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Permalink Reply by Douglas Campbell on
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Hello again cousin John,
Sorry I have not been in touch for a long time. I would like to come back to you directly by email with more information, but the essence of the link to Stradbroke of John Girling or Gurling of the Swan Inn at Lavenham is that he was adopted as a child by an uncle Abraham Girlling (clothier in Water Street there) and his wife Mary. John was born abt 1640 at Stradbrook to parents John Greenling or Girling (bap 21 Dec 1605 and bur. 01 May 1681, both Stradbrook) and his wife Elizabeth. Much of the proof lies in Wills, of which I have copies, and there is a line going back to a John Gyrlyng of Fressingfield who died 04 Oct 1487.
Good to hear from you, and I shall make further contact.
Regards,
Douglas Campbell
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Permalink Reply by John Phillips on
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Hello again Douglas
The suspense is killing! I would be delighted to chat about the Girling connection when you have time, and also catch up on the Petleys. I have been trying, without a great deal of success to trace them pre-Lavenham, and wonder how you have been progressing.Regards
John -
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Permalink Reply by Douglas Campbell on
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Hello John,
Your latest message received loud and clear! I tried to contact you by email but find that I do not have your current email address - the message that I sent bounced back. My email is unchanged, so please send me your address.
Regards,
Douglas
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Permalink Reply by Gregory Girling on
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Hello - another Girling family request!
I'm a descendant of Thomas Girling (b.1695) and Mary, née King (b.1695) and married in 1712. I've seen references to Mary as born in Eye and/or Fressingfield, but nothing further and know that they lived in Stradbroke. I do know that at least 4 subsequent generations of the family lived in Stradbroke:
John Girling (b 1719) & Sarah (née Smith)
William Girling (b1748) & Sarah (née Huggins)
Richard Girling (b.1790) & Jemima (née Pyle)
Richard moved north, to Stoke Holy Cross (where he worked in the original Colman's mustard mill!)
If anyone out there has any further information about the family, I'd love to hear from them. I'm hoping I can find leads to go earlier than Thomas and Mary as well as get any information that might shed light on the lives/occupations and places ancestors lived.
Cheers,
Gregg GirlingPS - Curious to know if there are any Girlings living in Stradbroke today?! A quick look on whitepages.co.uk shows none!
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